Honda's Bad Decisions - HondaClub.com

93HondaSI · 05-16-2008, 09:50 PM

Honda's Bad Decision

#1 Discontinuing the CRX and then trying to pass the Del Sol as it's succesor. No the Del Sol (sorry to all you owners out there) is junk compared to the CRX.

#2 Discontinuing the Civic SI after 1995. I really don't understand what compelled them to do such a thing, but thankfully they righted that wrong.

#3 Discontinuing the RSX. I haven't read why they are doin this, all I know is they are. To the best of my knowledge they aren't bringing in anything to replace it as a new smaller sporty car. One of the worst moves honda could make. The RSX is one of Honda's best cars and they are just going to stop it? It maes no sense at all.

#4 Discontinuing the NSX. I never really looked at the NSX much in the past, but it was a very nice car for a resonable price (compared to similar cars). They are bringing the NSX back, but it just won't be the same. It may be better and it may be worse, but not the same.

**8695Beaters** · 05-16-2008, 10:13 PM

1) The Del-Sol is a different kind of CRX. I think the crime is trying to pass off the CR-Z as the next CRX. At least the Del-Sol tried to be sporty.

2) The Si is not the issue. The bad decision is discontinuing the Type-R In America and refusing to bring over another.

3) The RSX was discontinued because A) every other Acura cost at least $5K more than the RSX and B) for about $5K less you could by the Civic Si, which was just as fast and handles better (becuase of the LSD). Check my Auto Rant and Ultimate Civic threads about how to build the next RSX.

4) The NSX was killed because Honda broke one of its most basic rules: never leave a car the same for more than 4 years. Apart from a refreshening in 2002, the NSX was the same car sold from 1991 to 2004. By that time, the Enzo Ferrari was available (along with the F-50, the 575M, and the 360M just to name a few), the Murcielago and Gallardo were released, the GT was released, and the Merc-McLaren SLR was released (or soon to be). And the Bugatti Veyron was in its early test stages. All of those cars, while far more expensive, brought way more to the table. More luxury, more power, and much more technology. If Honda had kept up with the ages, the NSX would still be a hit. Now the oldest cars are actually affordable for normal folk.

Honda's biggest mistake? I don't think they ahve hit it yet. But realize that every car company will make a few (K-Car anyone?).

**TJ213** · 05-16-2008, 11:19 PM

moved to general automotive

93HondaSI · 05-17-2008, 12:13 AM

I know all car companies are going to make mistakes. I was just thinkin about Honda's and wanted to see if anyone had anything to add, and I knew someone would. Especially you Beater lol

**PrimeTimeV6** · 05-17-2008, 01:03 AM

Another mistake was there decision to put a faulty transmission in the 98-02 Accord V6 and not offering a stick until 03.

**8695Beaters** · 05-17-2008, 08:11 AM

Or how about all of Honda's 6-Speeds having trouble?

**PrimeTimeV6** · 05-17-2008, 10:38 AM

The 6 speed trouble is mostly driver error.

**TJ213** · 05-17-2008, 12:40 PM

Some of Honda's 6 speed transmissions are pretty problematic, but they did finally release a TSB to cover most of the affected transmissions in regard to the 3rd gear issue.

**PrimeTimeV6** · 05-17-2008, 01:33 PM

Atleast they didn't do what they did for the 98-02 AV6. They would just put in another crappy tranny.

marcos · 05-17-2008, 09:06 PM

oh yea third gear on the new hondas pop out right?

05-16-2008, 09:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
93HondaSI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 218	Honda's Bad Decisions Honda's Bad Decision #1 Discontinuing the CRX and then trying to pass the Del Sol as it's succesor. No the Del Sol (sorry to all you owners out there) is junk compared to the CRX. #2 Discontinuing the Civic SI after 1995. I really don't understand what compelled them to do such a thing, but thankfully they righted that wrong. #3 Discontinuing the RSX. I haven't read why they are doin this, all I know is they are. To the best of my knowledge they aren't bringing in anything to replace it as a new smaller sporty car. One of the worst moves honda could make. The RSX is one of Honda's best cars and they are just going to stop it? It maes no sense at all. #4 Discontinuing the NSX. I never really looked at the NSX much in the past, but it was a very nice car for a resonable price (compared to similar cars). They are bringing the NSX back, but it just won't be the same. It may be better and it may be worse, but not the same. __________________ Imports before Muscle everytime. The same goes for women.

05-16-2008, 10:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
8695Beaters Geek In Training Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,223	1) The Del-Sol is a different kind of CRX. I think the crime is trying to pass off the CR-Z as the next CRX. At least the Del-Sol tried to be sporty. 2) The Si is not the issue. The bad decision is discontinuing the Type-R In America and refusing to bring over another. 3) The RSX was discontinued because A) every other Acura cost at least $5K more than the RSX and B) for about $5K less you could by the Civic Si, which was just as fast and handles better (becuase of the LSD). Check my Auto Rant and Ultimate Civic threads about how to build the next RSX. 4) The NSX was killed because Honda broke one of its most basic rules: never leave a car the same for more than 4 years. Apart from a refreshening in 2002, the NSX was the same car sold from 1991 to 2004. By that time, the Enzo Ferrari was available (along with the F-50, the 575M, and the 360M just to name a few), the Murcielago and Gallardo were released, the GT was released, and the Merc-McLaren SLR was released (or soon to be). And the Bugatti Veyron was in its early test stages. All of those cars, while far more expensive, brought way more to the table. More luxury, more power, and much more technology. If Honda had kept up with the ages, the NSX would still be a hit. Now the oldest cars are actually affordable for normal folk. Honda's biggest mistake? I don't think they ahve hit it yet. But realize that every car company will make a few (K-Car anyone?). __________________ "I really like going fast. Just go off and meditate in the wind, you know? As corny as it sounds it works and feels good. It's a good way to just let the weight of the world off every once in a while...is this a big pose? I mean, yes this is a pose! I mean am I driving down the street to not get noticed in this thing? I mean rebellious is what this thing is I would say!!!" -James Hetfield

05-16-2008, 11:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
TJ213 Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,623	moved to general automotive __________________ Comma Club Member #1

05-17-2008, 12:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
93HondaSI Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 218	I know all car companies are going to make mistakes. I was just thinkin about Honda's and wanted to see if anyone had anything to add, and I knew someone would. Especially you Beater lol __________________ Imports before Muscle everytime. The same goes for women.

05-17-2008, 01:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
PrimeTimeV6 V8 Eater! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,586	Another mistake was there decision to put a faulty transmission in the 98-02 Accord V6 and not offering a stick until 03. __________________ Accordv6 + supercharger = FUN Personal....www.myspace.com/brandonkupihea HondaClub....www.myspace.com/hondaclubdotcom PrimeTimePerformance....www.myspace.com/primetimeperformance

05-17-2008, 08:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
8695Beaters Geek In Training Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,223	Or how about all of Honda's 6-Speeds having trouble? __________________ "I really like going fast. Just go off and meditate in the wind, you know? As corny as it sounds it works and feels good. It's a good way to just let the weight of the world off every once in a while...is this a big pose? I mean, yes this is a pose! I mean am I driving down the street to not get noticed in this thing? I mean rebellious is what this thing is I would say!!!" -James Hetfield

05-17-2008, 10:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
PrimeTimeV6 V8 Eater! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,586	The 6 speed trouble is mostly driver error. __________________ Accordv6 + supercharger = FUN Personal....www.myspace.com/brandonkupihea HondaClub....www.myspace.com/hondaclubdotcom PrimeTimePerformance....www.myspace.com/primetimeperformance

05-17-2008, 12:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
TJ213 Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,623	Some of Honda's 6 speed transmissions are pretty problematic, but they did finally release a TSB to cover most of the affected transmissions in regard to the 3rd gear issue. __________________ Comma Club Member #1

05-17-2008, 01:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
PrimeTimeV6 V8 Eater! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,586	Atleast they didn't do what they did for the 98-02 AV6. They would just put in another crappy tranny. __________________ Accordv6 + supercharger = FUN Personal....www.myspace.com/brandonkupihea HondaClub....www.myspace.com/hondaclubdotcom PrimeTimePerformance....www.myspace.com/primetimeperformance

05-17-2008, 09:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
marcos Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 227	oh yea third gear on the new hondas pop out right?

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