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**8695Beaters** · 03-26-2008, 08:47 PM

No. You will need a new brake pedal too, or your clutch and brake will hit each other. You will have to replace the shifter anyway, and if you use an OEM shifter, then everything will bolt right in (don't waste your money on a short shifter, they really aren't worth it). Basically, everything that runs the auto will need to be replaced with parts from the manual, so everything will line up and bolt in.

civic_punk · 03-26-2008, 09:08 PM

so is it hard to do all of that?

undr8ed · 03-26-2008, 10:09 PM

If you're going to do the swap on your car, price out the swap to a manual and see what that will cost you. It sounds like that is what you're leaning towards. And the manual really is the way to go. Not only for better control of your revs and motor, and driver gratification, but unfortunately most Honda (and import) automatics don't last as long as the stick shift transmissions. The auto last only about 200k give or take 20k miles. The stick shift trans can last almost twice as long. So I think either way you slice it, go with the stick shift, and find out how much your swap is going to cost.

undr8ed · 03-26-2008, 10:12 PM

I'm pretty darn sure you'll need the ECU from a stick shift model too,.

**dre5491** · 03-27-2008, 10:27 AM

I'd look around and price the motor swap for a B18(any type), motor swap for a B16, and the transmission swap.. Figure out what the price difference is between all of them and then make you decision from there. Because you may find out that doing an engine swap won't cost you too much more than doing a transmission swap.. It all really depends on the area you live in and the demand for Honda engines and transmissions there. If theres a lot of swapped Hondas around you it might be pretty expensive to get the motor swap done.. If there aren't a lot of swapped Hondas around you then the demand is low and the price for the engine swap won't cost as much.. I mean if I swap a Honda around here it will be farely expensive because theres a lot of kids around here runnin B16 and H22 swapped cars... Just my 2 cents though..

**8695Beaters** · 03-27-2008, 11:09 AM

If you want to go all out, then a B18 would be the swap, but since it was never offered in any model of the Civic, it will not pass tech as a "stock car" and classes that deal with engine swaps are very competitive. The B16 was in the Civic Si, so if you convert your entire car to Si trim, then it will qualify as stock (according to the latest SCCA rules). The competition there is pretty loose and it's a lot more fun to drive in.

civic_punk · 03-27-2008, 05:03 PM

i dont think theres a lot cars with swaped engine around here.

**dre5491** · 03-27-2008, 06:20 PM

Well just call around some places like junk yards and stuff and some mechanices or tune shopes and see how much each swap would cost ya.

civic_punk · 03-27-2008, 06:31 PM

is there any nationwide tune shopes or shops with performance parts?

**8695Beaters** · 03-27-2008, 06:32 PM

Google. It's the best way to find anything you want. But you need a local shop to do the work. Google them too.

03-26-2008, 08:47 PM	#41 (permalink)
8695Beaters Geek In Training Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 891	No. You will need a new brake pedal too, or your clutch and brake will hit each other. You will have to replace the shifter anyway, and if you use an OEM shifter, then everything will bolt right in (don't waste your money on a short shifter, they really aren't worth it). Basically, everything that runs the auto will need to be replaced with parts from the manual, so everything will line up and bolt in. __________________ When life gives you lemons...you go racing!!! There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness. NASCAR fans are proof of this. So are competitiors in the 24 Hours Of Lemons.

03-26-2008, 09:08 PM	#42 (permalink)
civic_punk Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 147	so is it hard to do all of that? __________________ ONEPASSION

03-27-2008, 10:27 AM	#45 (permalink)
dre5491 Honda-Less Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 945	I'd look around and price the motor swap for a B18(any type), motor swap for a B16, and the transmission swap.. Figure out what the price difference is between all of them and then make you decision from there. Because you may find out that doing an engine swap won't cost you too much more than doing a transmission swap.. It all really depends on the area you live in and the demand for Honda engines and transmissions there. If theres a lot of swapped Hondas around you it might be pretty expensive to get the motor swap done.. If there aren't a lot of swapped Hondas around you then the demand is low and the price for the engine swap won't cost as much.. I mean if I swap a Honda around here it will be farely expensive because theres a lot of kids around here runnin B16 and H22 swapped cars... Just my 2 cents though.. __________________ DRE

03-27-2008, 11:09 AM	#46 (permalink)
8695Beaters Geek In Training Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 891	If you want to go all out, then a B18 would be the swap, but since it was never offered in any model of the Civic, it will not pass tech as a "stock car" and classes that deal with engine swaps are very competitive. The B16 was in the Civic Si, so if you convert your entire car to Si trim, then it will qualify as stock (according to the latest SCCA rules). The competition there is pretty loose and it's a lot more fun to drive in. __________________ When life gives you lemons...you go racing!!! There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness. NASCAR fans are proof of this. So are competitiors in the 24 Hours Of Lemons.

03-27-2008, 05:03 PM	#47 (permalink)
civic_punk Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 147	i dont think theres a lot cars with swaped engine around here. __________________ ONEPASSION

03-26-2008, 10:09 PM	#43 (permalink)
undr8ed Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 16	If you're going to do the swap on your car, price out the swap to a manual and see what that will cost you. It sounds like that is what you're leaning towards. And the manual really is the way to go. Not only for better control of your revs and motor, and driver gratification, but unfortunately most Honda (and import) automatics don't last as long as the stick shift transmissions. The auto last only about 200k give or take 20k miles. The stick shift trans can last almost twice as long. So I think either way you slice it, go with the stick shift, and find out how much your swap is going to cost.

03-26-2008, 10:12 PM	#44 (permalink)
undr8ed Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 16	I'm pretty darn sure you'll need the ECU from a stick shift model too,.

03-27-2008, 06:20 PM	#48 (permalink)
dre5491 Honda-Less Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 945	Well just call around some places like junk yards and stuff and some mechanices or tune shopes and see how much each swap would cost ya. __________________ DRE

03-27-2008, 06:31 PM	#49 (permalink)
civic_punk Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 147	is there any nationwide tune shopes or shops with performance parts? __________________ ONEPASSION

03-27-2008, 06:32 PM	#50 (permalink)
8695Beaters Geek In Training Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 891	Google. It's the best way to find anything you want. But you need a local shop to do the work. Google them too. __________________ When life gives you lemons...you go racing!!! There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness. NASCAR fans are proof of this. So are competitiors in the 24 Hours Of Lemons.

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