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Old 03-25-2008, 05:24 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i agree with u. do u know how long would it take to swap B series into my civic? because all i have is a one car garage and a driveway. as long as the parts go i agree with u its getting harder to find the rite parts for older models. i want to make it faster for both reasons. i like fast cars and it would be nice to once in a while take to the track and race. so for the swap which would be batter b18c or b18c1? isnt the only difference with hp and that b18c is a JDM motor?
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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you're going to need a good jack, 2 jackstands, a good set of metric wrenches and socket wrenches (all 3 sizes), and an engine hoist, at the least. I've found that getting the car up high in the air and dropping the motor and transmission seperately works easiest. Though you can disassemble the front end pull it out that way too, its pretty much just screws and bolts holding the front end together.
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:57 PM   #23 (permalink)
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i didnt think about front end. is it hard to put it together after all? u know its easy to rip apart and its always harder to put together
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:09 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You can do the swap without pulling apart the front end, but it makes life easier. The bumper and fenders are all held in by screws or clips. Pretty easy stuff.

For Hondas it's usually easier to lower then engine out from the bottom. Use the jack that you used to lift the car and then find something to roll the engine on (a board with 4 caster wheels works fine).

If you want to race it's easier to start out with a stock car. The competition isn't tough and it's a great way to learn the dynamics of the car. In SCCA you can swap engines between models as long as the entire car has been upgraded (so if you swap for an Si motor, you also have to handle the suspension, wheels, and other options for that model. The B18 is out of the question because it was never offered in the Civic). Certain mods will throw you in and out of classes, so if you want to race at all, build the car for a certain class and stick with it. And a stock car costs no money to modify.

BTW, the B18C1 was the GS-R engine and the B18C5 was the Type-R engine.
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:11 PM   #25 (permalink)
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so u say if i wanna race just keep the engine?
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Yes. But get rid of the auto. Road racing an auto is like dancing on jello. It just won't work. You can either sell the car and buy a stick (might make a small profit) or swap the trans (since almost all Civic trim levels had the option of either trans, it's okay and will keep you in the stock class).
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u know i had no choice cuz its my moms car and im gettin it soon but i wish it would be a stick. so just a stock civic transmission would work rite?do u know how much does it cost to get into those race events?
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Yeah, I know, don't kick a free car in the mouth. Save up some cash and you can get something good later.
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exactly so if i could find a transmission lets say in good condition in a junckyard and buy it cheap would it a good choice?
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Oh yeah, that's fine. It's not a hard swap, but still takes some mechanical knowledge. Or a shop can handle it. But if you want to swap the trans, that's the perfect time to swap the engine. I know I'm sending mixed signals, but the sad fact of life is that it is easier to do both at the same time.
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