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**Neil** · 02-05-2008, 12:47 PM

Head work, head work, head work. 90% of all automotive heads are overly restrictive. Open up your head and an aftermarket intake and exhaust might do some good. Otherwise, they are only doing half what they are designed to do.

**dre5491** · 02-05-2008, 12:52 PM

I just thought of something that I don't think anyone mentioned get a new intake manifold for it. That should help get some more/cleaner air into your motor.

**8695Beaters** · 02-05-2008, 01:16 PM

Honda heads are actually really good. i'd save headwork for later. The Japs do a good job desinging their motors, unlike the dumb domestics (that's how B-Series cranks are good until 500 hp). There are much cheaper ways to the same power.

shoobathelemur · 02-06-2008, 09:47 AM

Yeah, I thought about a new intake manifold w/ the throttle body. But won't I need to replace it anyways when I add a turbo? I don't want to buy something now that won't be useful when it's turbo time.

Also, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to drop a few pounds. I've stripped the trunk out and said no to ICE. What else can I do to lighten the load?

**8695Beaters** · 02-06-2008, 11:14 AM

Scrape out some sound deadening to start with. If you're patient, you can do it without dry ice. Your car might be too new though for that to work. At about 10 years, the sound tar will just crack away on its own. Swap to new wheels that are lighter (you can get new tires too and add some grip). Carbon fiber is good too, but make sure it's real carbon and not carbon layed over fiberglass. The good stuff is more expensive, but weighs a lot less than steel, aluminum or carbon on glass. Find a smaller, lighter battery. New seats tend to weigh less. Some people would throw out the rear seats, but I think that takes away from the usefulness of the car (I would also put the interior panels back in, but that's just me. They don't weigh much and they make the car look complete). If you've got money and time, changing metal fasteners to plastic and stripping undercoating will net a few more pounds. Losing a/c, and (if you have it) tossing the sunroof will also save weight. Sunroofs are hard to remove and doing a good job of covering up the hole is a lot of work. And since you live in Florida, I'd keep the a/c (take it from me, no a/c is not fun when you live in a humid state). Don't buy lexan windows for a daily driver, they scratch too easily and expand and contract a lot more than you'd think.

The intake manifold and TB aren't what have to be changed for a turbo. Your new header will have to go though.

shoobathelemur · 02-07-2008, 09:58 AM

I've located an OBX intake manifold that the guy will sell me for $150. Never heard of that brand though. Anyone have any feedback on whether its a quality part. It looks good. No visible cracks.

Says he had it on for about 8,000 miles before he replaced the d 16 for a h22. Now he's parting out the d16.

**8695Beaters** · 02-07-2008, 11:10 AM

OBX's home page:

Home - OBX Racing Sports

heard of 'em, never used 'em.

honda_eg · 02-23-2008, 03:53 AM

Try Getting Some Waste Off Of Your Car Like Things You Dont Need In It That Just Add Weight. Try To Reduce Some Uneeded Weight.

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Neil Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin United States Posts: 251	Head work, head work, head work. 90% of all automotive heads are overly restrictive. Open up your head and an aftermarket intake and exhaust might do some good. Otherwise, they are only doing half what they are designed to do. __________________ Marine Snipers : America's number one long distance service provider. EF Squad member #46 www.autotechniques.org Club President

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02-05-2008, 01:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
8695Beaters Headbanger Extraordinaire Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wilmington, Delaware United States Posts: 1,526	Honda heads are actually really good. i'd save headwork for later. The Japs do a good job desinging their motors, unlike the dumb domestics (that's how B-Series cranks are good until 500 hp). There are much cheaper ways to the same power.

02-06-2008, 09:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
shoobathelemur Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Clearwater, Florida United States Posts: 17	Yeah, I thought about a new intake manifold w/ the throttle body. But won't I need to replace it anyways when I add a turbo? I don't want to buy something now that won't be useful when it's turbo time. Also, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to drop a few pounds. I've stripped the trunk out and said no to ICE. What else can I do to lighten the load?

02-06-2008, 11:14 AM	#15 (permalink)
8695Beaters Headbanger Extraordinaire Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wilmington, Delaware United States Posts: 1,526	Scrape out some sound deadening to start with. If you're patient, you can do it without dry ice. Your car might be too new though for that to work. At about 10 years, the sound tar will just crack away on its own. Swap to new wheels that are lighter (you can get new tires too and add some grip). Carbon fiber is good too, but make sure it's real carbon and not carbon layed over fiberglass. The good stuff is more expensive, but weighs a lot less than steel, aluminum or carbon on glass. Find a smaller, lighter battery. New seats tend to weigh less. Some people would throw out the rear seats, but I think that takes away from the usefulness of the car (I would also put the interior panels back in, but that's just me. They don't weigh much and they make the car look complete). If you've got money and time, changing metal fasteners to plastic and stripping undercoating will net a few more pounds. Losing a/c, and (if you have it) tossing the sunroof will also save weight. Sunroofs are hard to remove and doing a good job of covering up the hole is a lot of work. And since you live in Florida, I'd keep the a/c (take it from me, no a/c is not fun when you live in a humid state). Don't buy lexan windows for a daily driver, they scratch too easily and expand and contract a lot more than you'd think. The intake manifold and TB aren't what have to be changed for a turbo. Your new header will have to go though.

02-07-2008, 09:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
shoobathelemur Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Clearwater, Florida United States Posts: 17	I've located an OBX intake manifold that the guy will sell me for $150. Never heard of that brand though. Anyone have any feedback on whether its a quality part. It looks good. No visible cracks. Says he had it on for about 8,000 miles before he replaced the d 16 for a h22. Now he's parting out the d16.

02-07-2008, 11:10 AM	#17 (permalink)
8695Beaters Headbanger Extraordinaire Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wilmington, Delaware United States Posts: 1,526	OBX's home page: Home - OBX Racing Sports heard of 'em, never used 'em.

02-23-2008, 03:53 AM	#18 (permalink)
honda_eg Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: visalia, California United States Posts: 23	Try Getting Some Waste Off Of Your Car Like Things You Dont Need In It That Just Add Weight. Try To Reduce Some Uneeded Weight.