down piping

[bmx-guy]

hmmm, alright....i was going to do that anyways when i get my exhaust and put it on

[8695Beaters]

Have you actually seen this turbo? Find out how many miles are on it (make sure it's the turbo, not the engine). Anything pushing 150K is probably going to need a rebuild soon. Check to make sure that it turns without too much resistance and that none of the blades are broken. Also, check to make sure it's fairly clean: gunk inside means the enigne on it was not very well taken care of. Also, what engine is in your Accord? If it's the V6, then this turbo will be a bad match. It'll spool up too quick and run out of power in the higher rpm. Get a turbo from an engine with similar displacement. If you have the 4-cylinder, you will have a perfect match. Oh, and if you have an auto trans, don't bother, it'll go up in smoke.

Not trying to be mean, but it sounds like you don't know a lot about what you are doing. If you are really serious about turbo power, look at a turbo kit. Yeah, it's more expensive, but once you factor in all the cost of adding all the support gear for this turbo, you will be closing in on that kit price. A turbo kit will already have all the bugs worked out and there is no extra legwork on your end (except finding a shop to do the installation, since you need an ECU reflash and some fabrication anyway). Even if you don't buy the kit, see what comes in it. That will tell you what else you will have to buy to make this turbo work. But then you still need to tune it...

[bmx-guy]

yea, no i don't know too much about that sort of stuff...which is why i'm asking haha, and yes my accord is a 5sp manual trans and it is the 4 cyl

[dre5491]

hey so depending on the spelling i was right =D

Edit: If the turbo is in good condition and you have the time and money to drop into your car and also want more hp then yes putting all of that into the turbo is very much worth it. Before you get the turbo put on your car think about if your planing on selling the car in the future. Because honestly if you are planing to sell your car in the future it wont be worth it because you'll deffinantly not get the time back you put into it that you could be putting into something else but, also most of the time if you sell a modded vehicle of any kind it is very very hard to sell it for all of the money you have invested into the car. If you plan on keeping the car I give you two thumbs up and use it as a learning expirence. I wouldn't just take it to a shop and pay someone to put it on unless you have to. What I would try to do is find a friend or family member that knows how to do that stuff (obviously all but the tuning cuz you need the equipment for that) to help you, guide you, and teach you how to put it on so you actually get the learning expirence out of doing it. And thats what tuning cars is about.. Yes, having a fast car is fun and nice but honestly tuning is about learning and broadening your knowledge about cars. Thats why I like imports better than muscle cars because imports are a lil harder for the most part to squeeze a lot of power out of cars and it can teach you lil tricks on how to squeeze power out of any car that you can use for the future if you plan on doing that stuff for a living. Wow that was a long edit lol.

[8695Beaters]

Dre, I completely agree with everything you just said. I just would not reccomend a custom (read junkyard) turbo install on anyone who isn't ready. My friend tried it on his Mazda and blew a hole in the block. Turbo is tricky and unless you have a solid knowledge in the basics of engines and a good grasp on how to manage an engine, you will fail as a pioneer. The thing about learning is taking things a step at a time. Learning to turbo properly is much higher up the scale than a body kit and headers. I'm not saying never turbo your car, just know what you're getting into. Bmx, go ahead and buy the turbo if you want (it is a good price), just keep it in the back of your garage until you're ready. It will be well worth it.

Although I have to admit, there is nothing like the sound of an all-motor Honda at 9,000 RPM.

[bmx-guy]

and the fact that there's not too many other turbo'd honda accords out there...would my accord ex be able to handle greater than 6250 RPM? i'd have to get a lot of engine work done wouldn't i?

[8695Beaters]

Easily. New valves and valvesprings (ie lighter than steel) and an ECU reflash will get you much higher RPM. The rev-limiter is only there because the engine can't physically move any faster without running into some combustion issue. A lighter valvetrain will put less load on your engine and allow it to run higher RPM. Just remeber that raising your rev limit moves the power band up. You will lose some torque but get more peak hp.

Actually the reason the Mazda blew is because he just threw on the turbo. He never intercooled it or tuned it or added more fuel. It was just a time-bomb waiting to go off. I think he was running 7 lbs, which nearly all stock engines can handle, as long as the motor's got enough fuel. As for extra fuel parts on an NA engine, the fuel rail/injectors probably aren't necessary. Depends how much extra air you're pumping in. Although if you need to reflash the ECU, hou might as well do it all at once. There's a formula for finding out what size injectors are needed for a given engine at a given hp. When I find it again I can post it.

[dre5491]

thats cuz they had the boost up too high.. i would only put like 5 pounds of boost until i got it tuned to get the max boost out of it.. my cousin is putting an evo turbo on his tiburon and hes only gunna run 5 lbs of boost untill he comes up wit the money till get can get the car completely tuned

Also to go along with what 86 said you should prolly get a fuel rail and injectors for that because at a high rpm your motor will be using more fuel and if you get a fuel rail and bigger injectors it will be able to easily put more fuel into the motor therefore making your motor run more smoothly than it would with the stock rail and injectors. Replacing them will also boost your hp a lil further because your motor will be getting more fuel.

[bmx-guy]

are fuel rails expensive? i've never looked into it at all

[dre5491]

94-97 Honda Accord Fuel Rails from AEM at Andy's Auto Sport

i'll also keep an eye out for some cheaper ones... thats the only one for the accord on andys..


94-97 Honda Accord Fuel Injectors at Andy's Auto Sport

also theres some brands of injectors for ya