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underdogs33 · 01-28-2007, 04:07 AM

trying to decide on puting a b16,gsr or a h22 in it any opions

**TJ213** · 01-28-2007, 12:46 PM

I would say b16, high reving VTEC, and a lot of aftermarket support

just don't get the h22 if you plan to turn anytime soon, the weight really messes up your car

underdogs33 · 01-28-2007, 01:46 PM

thanks man never realy thought of that how about a ls vtec motor i here there monsters but i read there alot of problems if there not but together perfect

**TJ213** · 01-28-2007, 02:41 PM

If you are talking about a non-vtec block and VTEC head I would not do that because the block is not designed for the pressures of VTEC, I would only get an engine that is designed for VTEC

underdogs33 · 01-28-2007, 03:12 PM

i have a non vtec know i was thinking about throwing a turbo or super chager on it know i like the idea of the turbo myself but i can get a jackson racing super charger cheap off a friend do you think it would be worth it or should i just swap out for a vtec

NiceTeggy · 01-29-2007, 04:03 AM

[quote=TJ213;4824]If you are talking about a non-vtec block and VTEC head I would not do that because the block is not designed for the pressures of VTEC, I would only get an engine that is designed for VTEC[/QUOTE

Correct me if i'm wrong, but, i don't think an ls block would get messed up because of the addition of a vtec head. We're talking about a 30-45 hp gain. You can gain as much power through boosting, nitrous, or even a bunch of bolt-ons, and it wouldnt hurt the engine given that proper a/f ratios are maintained. The only way I see it going wrong is maybe improper lubrication. Given that the motor will be revving higher, additional lubrication would be helpful.

IMO the ls-vtec can outperform b16 all day, and even gsrs off the line.

underdogs33 · 01-29-2007, 12:20 PM

i was talking about a ls block v-tec head but i see them for sale all the time and theres allways need something new pistons,1 cylinder doesnt work what im trying to get is do they brake alot cause of the ls block vtec head combination

AP1fun · 01-29-2007, 03:21 PM

LS is an economy car and most people who make a LS VTEC swap rev it very high and just mistreat a lower end (LS) motor. My vote is a B16A with a SC, or a LS VTEC and build the bottem end with GSR components.

underdogs33 · 01-29-2007, 08:14 PM

yea i'll probly go with the b16 and not have to worry abouit all the problems of the others

**TJ213** · 01-29-2007, 09:48 PM

The B16 has a lot of aftermarket support too, although it is a little low on torque, but having low torque is part of having a 4cyl honda

01-28-2007, 04:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
underdogs33 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 41	91 civic hatch trying to decide on puting a b16,gsr or a h22 in it any opions

01-28-2007, 12:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
TJ213 I've earned a Custom Title Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania United States Posts: 1,635	I would say b16, high reving VTEC, and a lot of aftermarket support just don't get the h22 if you plan to turn anytime soon, the weight really messes up your car __________________ Comma Club Member #1

01-28-2007, 02:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
TJ213 I've earned a Custom Title Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania United States Posts: 1,635	If you are talking about a non-vtec block and VTEC head I would not do that because the block is not designed for the pressures of VTEC, I would only get an engine that is designed for VTEC __________________ Comma Club Member #1

01-29-2007, 03:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
AP1fun I've earned a Custom Title Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Huntsville, Alabama United States Posts: 683	LS is an economy car and most people who make a LS VTEC swap rev it very high and just mistreat a lower end (LS) motor. My vote is a B16A with a SC, or a LS VTEC and build the bottem end with GSR components. __________________ [/quote]

01-29-2007, 09:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
TJ213 I've earned a Custom Title Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania United States Posts: 1,635	The B16 has a lot of aftermarket support too, although it is a little low on torque, but having low torque is part of having a 4cyl honda __________________ Comma Club Member #1

01-28-2007, 01:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
underdogs33 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 41	thanks man never realy thought of that how about a ls vtec motor i here there monsters but i read there alot of problems if there not but together perfect

01-28-2007, 03:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
underdogs33 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 41	i have a non vtec know i was thinking about throwing a turbo or super chager on it know i like the idea of the turbo myself but i can get a jackson racing super charger cheap off a friend do you think it would be worth it or should i just swap out for a vtec

01-29-2007, 04:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
NiceTeggy Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bronx, New York United States Posts: 71	[quote=TJ213;4824]If you are talking about a non-vtec block and VTEC head I would not do that because the block is not designed for the pressures of VTEC, I would only get an engine that is designed for VTEC[/QUOTE Correct me if i'm wrong, but, i don't think an ls block would get messed up because of the addition of a vtec head. We're talking about a 30-45 hp gain. You can gain as much power through boosting, nitrous, or even a bunch of bolt-ons, and it wouldnt hurt the engine given that proper a/f ratios are maintained. The only way I see it going wrong is maybe improper lubrication. Given that the motor will be revving higher, additional lubrication would be helpful. IMO the ls-vtec can outperform b16 all day, and even gsrs off the line.

01-29-2007, 12:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
underdogs33 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 41	i was talking about a ls block v-tec head but i see them for sale all the time and theres allways need something new pistons,1 cylinder doesnt work what im trying to get is do they brake alot cause of the ls block vtec head combination

01-29-2007, 08:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
underdogs33 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 41	yea i'll probly go with the b16 and not have to worry abouit all the problems of the others

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