07 Accord - Needs major boost.

[mm11683]

I have a 07 Accord with the vtec 3.0 V6 and I want to get over 500hp out of it quickly. Can someone tell me what they would do if they had to beat a vette? What would you do and moreover send me the links of where to get this stuff. If you say supercharge the car then put a link for a supercharger that will fit and work. If you say put a after market cam, there are about 10K after market cams so send me the link to the one you would put on the car. I would like to get this car over 500hp for less then $10K if at all possible but the cheaper the better!! The biggest thing it getting it over 413hp so I can out run a stock Z-vette.
Thanks,
Matt

[PrimeTimeV6]

Well for cams look for the stock 3.5 cams they will work wonders. A comptech supercharger with cl type s high boost pulley and snow performance water methanol injection. You will probably need a bout a 65 shot of wet N2O. As for links I believe the S/C is comptechusa.com... cams can be ordered from the dealer adn what ever nitrous of your choice.
With doing this you will be putting much strain on your engine and tranny so you are bound to blow something. But you must pay to play.
Now having 500hp...that is a big negative. For that much power that engine will have to be torn apart and totally rebuilt. Good luck with the vette it will be fun, but to beat a vette you will have to drive perfectly. I hope this isn't a grudge match.

[8695Beaters]

Okay, you need to step back and take a deep breath.

First off, is this your first project car? If it is, your goals are way too high. You will need a lot of money and/or a lot of friends and hook-ups to make this work.

Second, are you planning on doing the work on your own? This will be a big factor in determining your cost. Labor could easily be 2/3 of the total cost. And a 500 hp car for 10K is pretty low in my book. You can build and install the engine for that much, but the car will be slow as crap.

Third, is this your only car? If so, you are screwed right from the start. Expect the car to spend at least a month in the shop getting built, tuned, and all the kinks worked out. And then there is always the possibility of something going wrong after the car is done. **it happens, plan for it. Speaking of time, plan at least two months for all this to come together. Maybe three, depending on what else you are getting done. A good car takes time to work out, so be ready for it. And also be prepared to blow a motor or two, because with what you are asking, it will probably happen.

With all that said, you can crank that kind of number out of any engine, but it will take some work and planning. But numbers are not everything. Don't shoot for a horsepower number, that will just come back to bite you. You can make a 600 hp Accord and still lose to a Vette. Heck, that same car could easily lose to a stock Mustang. The reason being, Hondas tend to make lots of horsepower, but no torque. Torque will get you down the drag strip the fastest. Also, a well sorted chassis is going to be critical to making this car work at all. Anyway, if you want to beat a Corvette on the dragstrip, you need to beat it's 1/4 mile time, not its horsepower.

For power, you should be looking at PrimeTime's Accord. His is supercharged and runs nitrous, which will probably be what you need to hit the numbers you want. I don't know how much power his makes, but yours will need a forged bottom end, a good head, a big, efficient supercharger, and lots of fuel. How much boost you will need to run to make anywhere near the numbers you want is kind of relative, but I'm guessing over 15 psi. I'm fuzzy on superchargers, but it's going to be high. No matter what pressure you need, this engine is going to be extremely hard to maintain and won't be fun to drive on the street. And it will also drink gas like crazy.

Is your Accord an auto? Japanese autos are notoriously weak. Plan to have your transmission rebuilt to handle all the power. That's about 4 grand right there. Or swap to a stick. The 6-speed can handle 500 hp. Oh, a limited slip differential will be mandatory for this kind of power.

Once you have a motor ready to go, you will need to work out your chassis. At the minimum, you will need a rollbar, and strut and frame braces. The roll bar will have to be a weld-in (so plan on losing your back seats). Also, a racing harness (DOT or FIA approved) would be a good idea. Don't do a full roll cage unless you plan on keeping this car off the street. You will also want to strip some weight out of the car, and the quickest way would be to ditch the radio, A/C, and some sound deadening and some of the interior (or all if you please). You will probably want to do some other form of bracing, other than bolt-in stuff (my favorite is riveting the body seams, but welding is stronger).

Then you will need to work out the suspension. Coilovers, toe links, and A-arms will be needed. Also, buy a set of fat Mickey Thompson drag slicks for the front and some skinnies for the rear. Have them mounted to a set of drag wheels and swap wheels and tires when you hit the track. Anything short of a racing tire will spin off the line. And the suspension stuff will help you hook up. Also, some brake upgrades would be a good idea. A big brake kit will help you out there.

Realize that this is a big project. You are doubling the output of your engine, and the car was not designed for it. There's a lot of stuff to think about when you are doing something like that. Also, realize that this car will need constant maintainence, and won't be a very nice street car. But to be honest, if you want to beat a 'Vette, you should beat it at its own game. At the least, a RWD car. And Honda's offerings are pretty poor in that area. An American V8 would be your best bet, but my guess is that you want a Japanese car. That leaves a Z or a Supra.

There's only one link you need for this: Hasport Performance, Inc.. Talk to them, they are the only guys I know of who are qualified enough to handle a Honda project like this. They are in Arizona and will help you through this. They are very good at supercharging and nitrousing Honda engines. And they can get that power to the ground. I hope you know what you are getting into. And good luck.

[PrimeTimeV6]

If you want I can tell you the perfect set-up motor wise. It will be a lot of mix and match but it will put out with forced induction and nitrous.

[dre5491]

I'd say leave a 500 hp project for another car.. That car being a 2007 is still under warrenty no doubt. But also sounds like your DD and you do not want that for a DD because as with any highly modded car the reliability will suck balls. It'll also be a gas hog. I say leave this for the cars that Japan made to be a power monster like this for example Supra, NSX, Skyline, 350z, 300zx, or G35.. You could also do a RB(skyline inline 6) swapped 240 and build it to put down a lot of power but you will need to put a lot of work into that as well. But it shouldn't cost as much money because its an older car..

[mm11683]

OK, I was told I couldn't outrun a friends vette. This is my second project car. My frist one was a 91 Camaro and I was able to get 792hp out of it so I know what it takes to make a car with that kind of hp.

I also agree this would be impossible to do without a second car, exp since I plan on doing most of the work myself. I know there are tons of things I can do but when it comes to forced induction I will be letting a professional do it regardless if I go turbo or supercharger.

Now here is the ironary of this hole project:
The vette is a 1977 that runs a 16.6 booked time, but since I have the best times of the vette. I have been able to find out it is a 18.2 actual time, at least for this vette.

Now that makes a great point, 18.2 is the time I am shooting to outrun. Now my guess of 500hp was just that a guess. My camaro had 792 dynoed hp and would only get a 14.2 out of a quarter. That car would lift the front wheels off the ground when it jumped and that would make my ears have slits in them (from my smile).

Now I have done many rebuilds of motors and don't have a problem doing this but from what I have read and from the way I can see it spec'ed I can only get like 290 even if I go forged and max everything without doing forced induction.

Just my thoughs. Let me know if there is anything else I could add. It is the whole want thing.

Also thanks guys for the links and the advice.

Thanks again!!

[PrimeTimeV6]

if he is only getting an 18 in the 1/4 you can take it now. Hell I can lend you my car and you can give him a few lengths and still wax *** as long as you can drive.

[8695Beaters]

18 in the quarter? My stock Integra runs mid 15s (130 hp). Your Accord should be somewhere in the 14s stock. And not to be rude, but it sounds like your Camaro still needs a lot of work. My Silvia (270 hp) should be able to run high 12s no problem (I say should because I still haven't registered it yet or taken it to the track yet. But other Silvia's with that power run the same number). I think you need to learn some more about chassis setup before you tackle another monster motor. There is way more to a car than just making big numbers.